BalkanBandit

The anatomical difficulties of creating cat girls

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BalkanBandit    16

So this topic comes up every now and then asking if we could genetically engineer girls with cat ears.

 

Ignoring the obvious problems regarding common sense,morality and personal dignity lets get to the main issue.

 

Anatomy.

 

This is a human ear:

 

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And this is the cat ear:

 

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As we can see there is a basic problem of body engineering.

 

Mainly how to route a functional ear from the top of the skull to the bottom sides without it looking freaky.

 

The only real option is to go right through the skull and brain to create the canals,but what might we lose if we do that?

 

Lets see:

 

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So as we can see we would need to partialy lobotomize our cat girls to make this work,so what do the cat girls in question have to lose to make this possible?

 

Well given the hearing canals must go through the sides it means we have to dig through the Temporal Lobe.

 

Then its our choice i suppose,which one of these can our cat girls live without:

 

1.Hearing ability,memory acquisition,some visual perceptions,visual memory.

2.Categorization of objects,intellect.

3.Sense of identity,behaviour and emotions including fear.

4.Long term memory.

 

I personally think the least vital is number 2 since nobody really expects the cat girls to be useful for anything apart from lewding them at our discretion.

 

What are your thoughts?

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GermanSoldier    3,795
10 minutes ago, BalkanBandit said:

obvious problems regarding common sense,morality and personal dignity

 

No problems there to be found.

 

Common sense = Cat girls is awesome

 

Morality = if god didn't want us to play god by bio engineering he would have not given us the ability to do so

 

personal dignity = how is having a harem of cat girls not going to improve your dignity?! 

 

 

Though to face the actual problems, you are talking of a human brain here, but who says Nekos have a full developed human brain? the point of a neko is that its pretty much a cat inside a human, only retaining the cat ears and tail, which means they do not need/ have a fully developed Human brain, which means there could be quiet some space left to fit that ear system. 

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BalkanBandit    16
6 minutes ago, GermanSoldier said:

Though to face the actual problems, you are talking of a human brain here, but who says Nekos have a full developed human brain? the point of a neko is that its pretty much a cat inside a human, only retaining the cat ears and tail, which means they do not need/ have a fully developed Human brain, which means there could be quiet some space left to fit that ear system. 

 

The issue is the human body is quite different from a cat's.

 

As such it requires a bit more finesse to operate properly even at the most basic level.

 

Puting a cat brain in wont really work since it wont be able to properly run the body.

 

Not to mention you still expect the cat girl to do some basic stuff like clean herself,feed herself,take care of her own stuff etc,essentially she needs to have some basic ability to act human,something we dont expect from cats.

 

Also we are working with human's geneticaly engineered to be cat girls here,so we have to work within the framework of the human body and brain,and the brain is something we have a hard time understanding,let alone substituting.

 

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personal dignity = how is having a harem of cat girls not going to improve your dignity?! 

 

I was refering to the cat girls own dignity and right to live something resembling an enjoyable and functional life....

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Kmeto    717

Who cares about functionality, plastic surgery is already capable of making cat's ears.

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Kaikko    14
Just now, Kmeto said:

Who cares about functionality, plastic surgery is already capable of making cat's ears.

 

Then the other option is just making the ears and tail for decoration?

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GermanSoldier    3,795
2 minutes ago, BalkanBandit said:

we are working with human's geneticaly engineered to be cat girls here,

 

In that case, would it not be possible to also alter the shape of the brain? since the ears on the sides fall off, it could be possible to simply use that space for the brain parts we else had to remove, and simply shift the brain so everything necessary for hearing is where the ears are at, while everything else takes up the left space. 

 

I mean we are talking about altering the brain and skull to start with, so shifting it a little to take up different space with roughly the same abilities sounds possible.

 

In addition we can also downsize the brain non the less, because the Neko doesnt have to have the full brain capacity as a regular human. After all, they would be no more than advanced pets, and not a new form of humanity. 

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BalkanBandit    16
6 minutes ago, Kmeto said:

Who cares about functionality, plastic surgery is already capable of making cat's ears.

 

5 minutes ago, Kaikko said:

 

Then the other option is just making the ears and tail for decoration?

 

But how will the cat girl be able to manuver the ears to be convincing if she has no ability to actually hear with them?

 

As for the tail that part san work,since the old monkey tail and a cat's arent that different.

 

3 minutes ago, GermanSoldier said:

In that case, would it not be possible to also alter the shape of the brain? since the ears on the sides fall off, it could be possible to simply use that space for the brain parts we else had to remove, and simply shift the brain so everything necessary for hearing is where the ears are at, while everything else takes up the left space. 

 

 

We arent really moving the ear drums tho,we are simply sticking a vertical canal through the brain.

 

3 minutes ago, GermanSoldier said:

I mean we are talking about altering the brain and skull to start with, so shifting it a little to take up different space with roughly the same abilities sounds possible.

 

Im not really altering anything,im literally drilling through a human brain and hoping nothing important is lost.

 

3 minutes ago, GermanSoldier said:

In addition we can also downsize the brain non the less, because the Neko doesnt have to have the full brain capacity as a regular human. After all, they would be no more than advanced pets, and not a new form of humanity. 

 

You gonna wash and feed and cloth it every day and take it for walks and clean up its poop?

 

 

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Kmeto    717
13 minutes ago, BalkanBandit said:

But how will the cat girl be able to manuver the ears to be convincing if she has no ability to actually hear with them?

>caring about what vaginal demon hears

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Fegaris    1,738
1 hour ago, BalkanBandit said:
Spoiler

 

So this topic comes up every now and then asking if we could genetically engineer girls with cat ears.

 

Ignoring the obvious problems regarding common sense,morality and personal dignity lets get to the main issue.

 

Anatomy.

 

This is a human ear:

 

ear.jpg

 

And this is the cat ear:

 

7e9178595e73d33bf4f8f41557455eed.jpg

 

As we can see there is a basic problem of body engineering.

 

Mainly how to route a functional ear from the top of the skull to the bottom sides without it looking freaky.

 

The only real option is to go right through the skull and brain to create the canals,but what might we lose if we do that?

 

Lets see:

 

2d6a526beebd15ec8da3835766f7d031--fronta

 

So as we can see we would need to partialy lobotomize our cat girls to make this work,so what do the cat girls in question have to lose to make this possible?

 

Well given the hearing canals must go through the sides it means we have to dig through the Temporal Lobe.

 

Then its our choice i suppose,which one of these can our cat girls live without:

 

1.Hearing ability,memory acquisition,some visual perceptions,visual memory.

2.Categorization of objects,intellect.

3.Sense of identity,behaviour and emotions including fear.

4.Long term memory.

 

I personally think the least vital is number 2 since nobody really expects the cat girls to be useful for anything apart from lewding them at our discretion.

 

What are your thoughts?

 

 

why would you need rebuilt whole hearing system....all you need is only change the ´´reciever´´

1 hour ago, GermanSoldier said:
Spoiler

 

No problems there to be found.

 

Common sense = Cat girls is awesome

 

Morality = if god didn't want us to play god by bio engineering he would have not given us the ability to do so

 

personal dignity = how is having a harem of cat girls not going to improve your dignity?! 

 

 

Though to face the actual problems, you are talking of a human brain here, but who says Nekos have a full developed human brain? the point of a neko is that its pretty much a cat inside a human, only retaining the cat ears and tail, which means they do not need/ have a fully developed Human brain, which means there could be quiet some space left to fit that ear system. 

 

 

^ listen to this guy :D wise man 

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SilvaRodrigo    1,075

"Why spend money on colonizing mars or creating a cure to cancer and aids when we can genetically modify woman to have cat ears and a furry tail, an i right?"

 

Everytime you start to fantasise with this BS, a scientist kills himself.

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GermanSoldier    3,795
1 hour ago, BalkanBandit said:

Im not really altering anything,im literally drilling through a human brain and hoping nothing important is lost.

 

well, the brain is not a solid piece of matter, it is rather soft and squishy. So rather than trying to drill a hole for a cable in a wall, you are sticking a pipe through a sponge. 

 

Also in order to not loose any significant hearing ability the entire ear drum complex bla bla has to be moved to stay in the same relation as if it was a regular cat ear. 

 

1 hour ago, BalkanBandit said:

You gonna wash and feed and cloth it every day and take it for walks and clean up its poop?

 

Cats are fairly independant. All i do is feed mine and clean its litter box, everything else it does by itself. So granted we strap a cat to maneuver a human and give it some advanced capabilities, it will be fairly capable of opening a plundering the fridge (which my cat already is capable of) and use a regular toilet. 

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BalkanBandit    16
52 minutes ago, Fegaris said:

why would you need rebuilt whole hearing system....all you need is only change the ´´reciever´´

 

You gonna risk trying to re-direct hearing nerves?

 

28 minutes ago, SilvaRodrigo said:

Everytime you start to fantasise with this BS, a scientist kills himself.

 

Their own damn fault for not figuring out more immediate shirt like immortality and eternal youth to take peoples mind's off cat girls

 

1 minute ago, GermanSoldier said:

well, the brain is not a solid piece of matter, it is rather soft and squishy. So rather than trying to drill a hole for a cable in a wall, you are sticking a pipe through a sponge. 

 

Also in order to not loose any significant hearing ability the entire ear drum complex bla bla has to be moved to stay in the same relation as if it was a regular cat ear. 

 

Hence why i figured to not touch it and simply extend the ear canal through the brain up top,the cat ear doesnt seem to be much different from that idea.

 

Unless you mean to shorten this supposed canal which means even more of the Temporal Lobe must go.

 

2 minutes ago, GermanSoldier said:

Cats are fairly independant. All i do is feed mine and clean its litter box, everything else it does by itself. So granted we strap a cat to maneuver a human and give it some advanced capabilities, it will be fairly capable of opening a plundering the fridge (which my cat already is capable of) and use a regular toilet. 

 

I really dont want to be cleaning up after the cat-human demolishes half the home and pisses and defecates across it while having no grasp of what its doing.

 

Or when it tries to jump out the window and proceeds to break all its bones.

 

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Kaikko    14
4 minutes ago, GermanSoldier said:

 

well, the brain is not a solid piece of matter, it is rather soft and squishy. So rather than trying to drill a hole for a cable in a wall, you are sticking a pipe through a sponge. 

 

Also in order to not loose any significant hearing ability the entire ear drum complex bla bla has to be moved to stay in the same relation as if it was a regular cat ear. 

 

 

Cats are fairly independant. All i do is feed mine and clean its litter box, everything else it does by itself. So granted we strap a cat to maneuver a human and give it some advanced capabilities, it will be fairly capable of opening a plundering the fridge (which my cat already is capable of) and use a regular toilet. 

 

Surely you wouldn't want it to have too advanced mental capabilities...

 

 

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Fegaris    1,738
7 minutes ago, BalkanBandit said:

You gonna risk trying to re-direct hearing nerves?

Well, basicly you could do that aswell bit.....but its kinda too complicated. You could go only for reimplating the ears basicly....if you would do this in early age, human brain would adjust itself for ´´different´´ loud of recieved sound also as different radiuses....only problem would be the muscles - as you would need with cat ears to rotate to center the sound...other wise it would be kinda bit ´´bad objective hearing´´ ....human ears are made in different concept, its not that sharp, but you dont need to move them.

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GermanSoldier    3,795
22 minutes ago, BalkanBandit said:

I really dont want to be cleaning up after the cat-human demolishes half the home and pisses and defecates across it while having no grasp of what its doing.

 

Education and training is everything

 

23 minutes ago, BalkanBandit said:

Hence why i figured to not touch it and simply extend the ear canal through the brain up top,the cat ear doesnt seem to be much different from that idea.

 

Unless you mean to shorten this supposed canal which means even more of the Temporal Lobe must go.

 

Well it should stay the same length, but the point remains, it should be rather easy to move a things around in the brain since its not a 100% solid and static thing. 

 

22 minutes ago, Kaikko said:

Surely you wouldn't want it to have too advanced mental capabilities...

 

If it gets smarter then its owner something went wrong. 

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BalkanBandit    16
24 minutes ago, Kaikko said:

Surely you wouldn't want it to have too advanced mental capabilities...

 

Leave Blair out of this.

 

17 minutes ago, Fegaris said:

Well, basicly you could do that aswell bit.....but its kinda too complicated. You could go only for reimplating the ears basicly....if you would do this in early age, human brain would adjust itself for ´´different´´ loud of recieved sound also as different radiuses....only problem would be the muscles - as you would need with cat ears to rotate to center the sound...other wise it would be kinda bit ´´bad objective hearing´´ ....human ears are made in different concept, its not that sharp, but you dont need to move them.

 

Actually the ear movement isnt a serious issue.

 

Human ears have vestigial muscles for movement,but they are so weak and atrophied that they dont do much.

 

Enhancing them wouldnt be a huge issue since the nerve infrastructure already exists.

 

3 minutes ago, GermanSoldier said:

Education and training is everything

 

Which wont do anything if the cat girl is brain dead.

 

3 minutes ago, GermanSoldier said:

Well it should stay the same length, but the point remains, it should be rather easy to move a things around in the brain since its not a 100% solid and static thing. 

 

The tiny issue is that we dont know for sure what we are moving,and we cant re-connect it.

 

And i dont want to give the thing a brain hemorage every time it moves its head due to the brain being pushed into shape.

 

4 minutes ago, GermanSoldier said:

If it gets smarter then its owner something went wrong. 

 

With half its Frontal Lobes missing that shouldnt be too much of a danger.

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Fegaris    1,738
1 minute ago, BalkanBandit said:

Actually the ear movement isnt a serious issue.

 

Human ears have vestigial muscles for movement,but they are so weak and atrophied that they dont do much.

 

Enhancing them wouldnt be a huge issue since the nerve infrastructure already exists.

well...true, that issue it-self is strenght of those muscles.....

 

so we end up with conclusion, that cat ears for humans....arent actualy that ´´hard´´ to do :D:D

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BalkanBandit    16
39 minutes ago, Fegaris said:

well...true, that issue it-self is strenght of those muscles.....

 

so we end up with conclusion, that cat ears for humans....arent actualy that ´´hard´´ to do :D:D

 

Well this thing is our ancestor so its not that surprising....

 

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Fegaris    1,738
3 minutes ago, BalkanBandit said:

 

Well this thing is our ancestor so its not that surprising....

 

76e9cbac46f679923811271840185157--extinc

 

 

 

Cristians will stone you here

 

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BalkanBandit    16
11 minutes ago, Fegaris said:

Cristians will stone you here

 

Im Orthodox Christian,as such i fear no Western Heretics.

 

 

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