Reto.Hades 3,433 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 We have opened the prototype server so you can try out some new hero control tweaks. You can download the prototype here: http://prototype.heroesandgenerals.com/ The changelog for prototype is as followed: Sprint has been changed: you can now sprint as far as you like Fatigue is gained at a constant rate regardless of items Marathon man badge changes into - faster fatigue recovery instead of being able to sprint longer (controllers.givecb1 110-112) The effect of being fatigued is the gun moving up and down decreased run speed (because inf sprint) Added new breathing sound The Fatigue bar fills up the more you sprint and the aim gets affected visualised by the red icon thingy The fatigue bar disappears when you have regained your strength and it reappears after a little while when you start sprinting again. Speeded up time to prone from standing Looking around now affects sway Better blending on sway Running while crouched is now faster (blend still needs to be added) tumble speed set to 10 m/s increased prone speed by 30% Angle of the grenade has been changes, so you no longer have to aim upwards so much 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RussianSniper01 620 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Reto.Hades said: We have opened the prototype server so you can try out some new hero control tweaks. You can download the prototype here: http://prototype.heroesandgenerals.com/ The changelog for prototype is as followed: Sprint has been changed: you can now sprint as far as you like Fatigue is gained at a constant rate regardless of items Marathon man badge changes into - faster fatigue recovery instead of being able to sprint longer (controllers.givecb1 110-112) The effect of being fatigued is the gun moving up and down decreased run speed (because inf sprint) Added new breathing sound The Fatigue bar fills up the more you sprint and the aim gets affected visualised by the red icon thingy The fatigue bar disappears when you have regained your strength and it reappears after a little while when you start sprinting again. Please see MP4 below. Speeded up time to prone from standing Looking around now affects sway Better blending on sway Running while crouched is now faster (blend still needs to be added) tumble speed set to 10 m/s increased prone speed by 30% The only thing players ever wanted was infinite sprint everything else is just a hindrance.... Sway when looking, fatigue, decreased run speed. Devs People want weapon balance, none of this nonsense. Edited February 15, 2020 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khadmon 561 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 I want the deploy system to stop jumping up to the top every time im trying to sort out my deploy queue list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iNuBe 16 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 I love this 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guncolony.com 527 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 1. Infinite sprint is excellent! 2. Another nerf to SMGs and buff to AT Rambos. I don't think I support this. SMGs should honestly be 5 equipment points if this change goes live, otherwise there would be no reason to use it over an assault rifle (even for US). It does clear up some inconsistencies though, such as bringing 2 stacks of AT grenades penalizing your sprint more than bring one stack and using dynamite lover. 3. The new marathon man seems much weaker, I prefer the old design by far. With the new design I would always use heavy set instead of marathon man 4. Honestly the old system had enough penalty for fatigue, no need to change the player's sway into AT rifle sway after they run out of stamina... I think the sway penalty should be about half of what it is right now. Currently there's no way you hit anything past 2 meters after sprinting. 5. Ok for the sake of balance, but I hope it is not a huge decrease above 10% 6. Fatigue UI is a nice touch, but I wouldn't mind if it stayed shown all the time due to the fact that you are usually sprinting a lot in any H&G match 7. Faster prone is good for general responsiveness and to buff some heavy LMGs that needed buffs like the MG34 and MT and to some extent the M1919, but watch out for DT29 and MG42 becoming too powerful after this change 8. Faster running on crouch is much needed, bravo 9. Prone speed is another another buff to LMG.. is this too much? 10. Normal sway on weapons is broken (weapons have no sway unless you have no stamina), but I don't think this is intended behavior anyways Overall positive and i would prefer the new system more than before, but there are some negative balance ramifications to this update that I hope can be addressed before the patch goes live. The game is overall on a good path now that they are actually working on modernizing basic gunplay and movement mechanics, I just hope that weapon balance can be addressed sooner or later. Edited February 14, 2020 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desphear 4 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 What's up with shooting? W/o fatigue there's no sway/conefire — only recoil. Sights are steady, hipfire is accurate 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reto.Hades 3,433 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 I see that one point is missing, we have also made some changes to throwing grenades. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guncolony.com 527 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Desphear said: What's up with shooting? W/o fatigue there's no sway/conefire — only recoil. Sights are steady, hipfire is accurate Probably a bug. The sway from no stamina is wayyyyy too high though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khadmon 561 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 Are bikes faster than running? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kacarr123 4 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 I like it! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tumult_inc 348 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Reto.Hades said: Looking around now affects sway Didn't it always? It certainly always expanded the cone. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sayukta 111 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 overall game is moving in positive direction but we asked for weapon balance.. these things just provide bonus to existing game... balancing weapon is what should be prioritized. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guncolony.com 527 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Khadmon said: Are bikes faster than running? probably only on roads now, and there's always the fact that it doesn't make you have sway 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xeator 743 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 Sway, sprint, crouch and prone speed. Wow! Awesome changes. Makes the game feel a lot more dynamic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sayukta 111 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) finally carbine has no fuc*ing sway love it Edited February 14, 2020 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobo[PT] 557 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, sayukta said: finally carbine has no fuc*ing sway love it Have to test this 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sayukta 111 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, Lobo[PT] said: Have to test this ya man 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bartalamey1 334 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 simulator of running is evolving. now randoms without an apc will have penalty at accuracy. hm... aaaaaand a guy with machinegun now can sprint as long as a guy with pistol? hm again... may be you are going to add different movement speed for them? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xanotos 664 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 While at it please add sound to foot steps(running walking etc) also. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobo[PT] 557 Report post Posted February 14, 2020 @Reto.Hades where is the mp4 below stated in original post? What 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
